Long John at Koivusaari

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The new Chris Helle beta video looks a bit off to me, correct me if I'm wrong. It goes too much towards pippeli, original beta is topping more to the left without Yhnä or Pippeli holds

Miikka Einsalo • 4 years ago

Maybe. That rock is way too cramped up. Chris could easily reach holds from three different routes where ever he is. It would be stupid to eliminate foot hold right underneath your handhold 'because it is eliminated'. Maybe the 7a is the beginning and they share the ending?

Tobias Martin • 4 years ago

Well based on the original route comments and the line drawn, if you top it like pippeli then it’s 6a

Kim Freeman • 2 years ago

Not even close 7A, even if you top it out from the same face you begin from. Makes you do a harder sloper gaston move than topping from the right side and makes it a bit closer to grade. But it's not 7A. Definitely not by Koivusaari standards. But following the line makes the problem a bit nicer imo. But not 7A. Maybe if you're extremely short, the first move might be close to 7A.

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From the old topo found. Quite a eliminate but okay moves. Didn't use any of Yhnäs holds. Started left from slippery small crimp low down and right from pippelis starting incut hold, going straight up to sloper/crimper. Felt maybe like koivusaari 6C/6C+?

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